a [Music] [Music] about F and formless that is the sarun and the nirguna again the the differences are created by those people who do not have very deep understanding or out of the six philosophies they are following uh one and they are um not having a unbiased view about the other five schools of philosophy and that's a human nature what I believe in is best so all the Logics and arguments will be created because of the ego of the person in Bat we gave this Freedom we accept Ed this diversity and our SES permitted acknowledged that if you wish to say worship Shiva fine if you don't want to worship Shiva and you wish to see Shiva as a formless one fine we won't pass on any injunction onto you or penalize you or punish you same goes for Vishnu so you wish to see the Shan chakra gadam um vent Mala wearing um God as your God fine and if you wish to see the one omniscient existence as Vishnu accepted so there are these uh six schools of thought so they have their variations like even in yog there is a section which believes in ishwara and then there is one which is nishar means doesn't believes in existence of ishwara but it says that the ja the individual self is one and the nature the prti is the another entity that's it so when you with the practices of uh the eight limbs of yoga you can arise and rise in such a way that you yourself will become iswar so although they are saying there is no iswar and yet they are saying you can be one ishar but there's a section of yog which says no the the existence of ishwara is accepted bhat gives all the freedom so Vishnu sh Shiva uh Dura um SA old days the sun was woried as a God and like there was this one of the most largest temple of Sun one is there in Gujarat M and there's another one which was the loftiest temple in Kashmir which Lita Aditya the last Hindu king of Kashmir it is said that he got that constructed and which was of course thed very badly and it it is a uh temple of Sun so those are called in Sanskrit sa those who worship ganapati are called GH those who worship Davi are called Shaka those who worship Shiva are called sh those who worship Vishnu are called vnav so all these sects have these uh differences of like say what ritual or what offerings you will give or what Mantra you will do to appease but for the person who is now ready for them the upanishads come in and you'll be surprised in upanishad there is no talk or mention about Vishnu or Shiva or Surya or Indra or Davi or ghaba or anybody but then the upanishads were meant for sasis meaning the the four ashramas so for the the celibate the brahmachari the Student Life they had a section of vaa which is called the brahmanas that was for them and then you have a section for those who are married all the rules and what to do what not to do are there then there are aranyakas that is for the one for and then there are nishad which was meant for sasis only so there was this beautiful division of human life into four sections so as you are in whatever age and Stage the Ries gave us the shastras the scriptures gave us the guidelines gave us what to do when when to do how to do and everything and the vant is the utmost and the highest knowledge of all so once somebody has gone into this Arena of vant there are no differences uh of opinions or ideologies because over there there is going to be what in Hindi I would call Samaya the Samaya is there so bhagwat Gita is a classic example where Krishna is talking about his farm and the formless existence and that's the beauty you can choose to be an antagonist you can choose to be an atheist and you are permitted and you will be still called a Sani you are not a Believer and yet you will not be sconed or punished or ostracized or kicked out or some punishment is given no that's that's okay you wish to see uh either of the form as your chosen deity as your chosen God is permitted I'll I'll give you one small beautiful example uh story from purana it is said one time Parvati wanted to celebrate birthday of ghapa Ganesha so she she invited all the deas the demig gods and Vishnu said I am not going today so he send his uh uh two devotees those who were like the guards on the gate and he said today you go and attend uh parvati's function so okay they go to kalasha and there were this all fun and celebrations and dance and music and everything is on now maati is also Anapa so she says nobody will go without eating so everybody goes towards eating food but these two vnas they say they are standing on the corner and they say okay Ma we take your leave we have to go so why how can you go without eating they said we are Vishnu Bak so without seeing face of Our Lord we don't eat and our Lord is not here so how can we eat so kindly permit us that we may take leave of you Parvati says okay but before going why don't you go inside the room and greet Ganesha in person and then you may go so they both go in and the Panic story says and they were expecting a a child in a credle but when they go closer to the credle there is Vishnu in that credle there is Vishnu in the cred and they do the the worship and they're very surprised that how come Vishnu is there and where is Ganesha so the message is Ganesha and Vishnu are not two so don't create this Division and then M Parvati comes in and she says now are you ready to eat now yeah sure now now I am ready to eat because we have done the our prayers and our custom of seeing our Master's face first a Vishnu bhagwan's D first and then we offer the food to him and only then we partake the prasadam so the puranas are kind of giving these kind of messages and stories where um there it's like interwoven so like there are Panic stories where Shiva is worshiping Vishnu and there is a story where Vishnu is worshiping Shiva like s would say that Shiva is my Guru my God and Shiva is saying Ram is my Guru and God and Sati in um meaning when Parvati was Sati in in her dis birth she was very confused who is Guru of Home who is the worshipper and who is the deity so there are these beautiful stories where the the uh the Confluence of FS into the formless are being created but then in last I would say 3 400 years some new sects have cropped up I um wish not to take their names you have taken it so I not going to repeat that right that's what happened to Vishnu that one time the Rishi goes in and Vishnu is in his yog Nidra and Dei Lakshmi is by his Lotus feet and and he doesn't greet the Rishi Rishi gets very angry and he kicks onto the chest of Vishnu and Vishnu says oh my chest is pretty hard I hope I haven't hurt your beautiful soft smooth feet orishi Lakshmi got very angry and she said I curse you you will always be bere of me so no Brahman ever will be very rich Brahman will be always looking for D and danh from people that's the curse which says has come from Lakshmi to this Rishi and Vishnu you know no no statue of Vishnu is made without those signs of the Rishi Chan on his chest meaning he is kicking Vishnu and Vishnu says I am incomplete without your the the mark on my chest so in vnow Dharma whenever a Vishnu statue is made that Mark of that rishi's Footprints are are always created so who is going to send hell to whom we don't have this concept so I I think so what you need to go is into dep study of bhagat Gita or you take any of my vedantic like there is a series of uh scriptures which I have explained from D to prad to Kad to Atma bod and to so many the list is there and the and the best part would be you know going into the complete bhagad Gita and understanding the core don't go into so and so Swami said that and so and so guruji said that and then guru's come and go but the viic knowledge is eternal I always say this when anybody says I am a guru now listen to me whatever I say we say okay what is the basis of whatever you are speaking so if your Bas is with us we are ready to agree to that and accept you but if you say no I have created something some new knowledge we won't accept it unfortunately people these days don't do any scriptural studies they don't have time where is time School College University marriage job there is no time and it's not even a priority but I make a point that I am bringing on this viic knowledge in front of people making it uh easy to understand giving the color of my commentaries which are scientific meaning bringing into the science into it because there's a wonderful quantum physics to explain there is a wonderful geography and zoology involved there is wonderful physics laws are there which I use as an analogy or as an example because once you have a thorough knowledge about say bhagwat Gita or any upad there is no room left for confusion and again I'll repeat Enlightenment is not our word we don't use that we have a word which can be like s praga meaning established in that pure knowledge we have word self-realization we have word Atma nista we have have word brahmani or brahmana but we don't have word the the enlightenment it comes more closer to the Buddhist theology but sometimes the Western writers and the speakers are using these words and this becomes like a big thing I always uh end up uh saying this one time I was in Denmark so the person who had visited me here he invited me to come to their asham so I was very intrigued to go and see this asham in Denmark and I go there and there were some like 50 men and women and they all were speaking this one word oh so enlightened and I'm so enlightened and you are enlightened and we are all enlightened you know they had this word and they had actually made some very beautiful uh pictures and artwork and portraits where they depict that somebody who you know is like um a wave getting connected from the brain to the heavens and from the heavens the light is falling onto the head of the person and from head to the heart and from heart to the all the Mula chakra and other chakras and the chakras are open up and my old chakras are awakened up and I am enlightened and I was oh wow that was quite an experience and we had quite a laugh over there because there was nobody who was unenlightened and everybody was enlightened over there so somehow there's a misusage of this word big time Big Time We Say realization of who I am and realization of what God is and and Dharma is the only one Dharma which gives you this Freedom which gives you this choice to question who is God what is God and who defines and who opens up this whole uh path for you to think to challenge to question to doubt and and especially like the beautiful upanishad called prashad prashn upanishad is a conversation of six disciples with the guru so they come up with their questions and the story says when they go to the guru the guru says you'll have to be with me for one year
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