Unless the master accepts a disciple, can the disciple call the Guru his master? in chapter two of Bhagavad Geeta Shloka seven Arjuna declares himself a disciple but Krishna nowhere professes to be his Guru although he did the work of clearing doubts as a Guru (master) does see, usually people say that we wish to make someone a guru (master) wrong! how will you make a guru? Guruji is a guru because of his Sadhana How will you make a guru? we will make a guru! wrong! the dictum states that, one says I wish to become a disciple Arjun was a very learned man very knowledgeable man that is why he says to Krishna SHLOKA I surrender to you I bring myself in front of you I have no brains. You show me the way and ... in a man such a feeling to arise that I am a disciple and according to a disciple the surrender is required he should do so in this Guruji does not need to say that yes, yes now I am your master may be such a statement will be given by those who wish to be a Guru Krishna has no desire to be a Guru. in front of Krishna when Arjuna surrenders expressing his desperation and his pain then he too understands that now he will either there is a word in English that Krishna was chiding him if I say it in Hindi then it would be; teasing him so far that he called him impotent more so, telling him that you talk about learned men but you are not a learned man sometimes he says to him that you are shying away from your duties as a warrior but not once did he say that you should make a Guru not once did he say that unless you become my disciple I will not tell you the truth Arjuna is knowledgeable very intelligent, so he does the way it should be done he surrenders himself in a suitable manner he surrenders himself and says from now I am your disciple and I surrender to thee now whatever path you show me I will proceed according to the path shown keenly that is it! work is done. Problem is in some communities and cults, thousands of people are made to sit together and Guruji recites the mantra on a microphone. does not even know who his disciples are the disciple may not closely have seen the face of the master even looking through binoculars there are cults like these too because they give false assurance that the guru will give you moksha just become a disciple of the guru rest is the Guru's job, you don't have to do anything, you can remain a donkey the truth is unless the disciple and Guru... Who do we call a guru? see according to the vedas what the scriptures say the one who has realized his own self who knows atman as Brahman knows that the world is illusionary he is a Guru the one who say that God lives there and I have the passport and license of take you there I can lead you there that is opposite to what the Upanishads say some limited Him to a country some said he lives in another realm same said he lives in Sach Khand gave Him all different names based on their imagination the Vedas say this is not true that is why everyone should study the Vedic scriptures Upanishad, Gita read it, they explain that when we say guru so what is the meaning of Guru I am saying it very simply in a nut shell giving the essence of the Vedas The essence that, the one who knows that I am Brahman swaroop The Atman is Brahman and the one who knows that this world is an illusion is a Guru now the way the Guru sees it is that the one who has come he too is a form of the Brahman he is not a down trodden, lowly being who needs to be uplifted by the Guru they say there is one and only one so to say, else say there is only one existence of the non dual, eternal, pure, all knowing Brahman, there is no other existence! so the Guru Brahmvit Brahmaiv Bhavati the one who knows Brahman becomes Brahman now the person with such a resolve according to the Vedas He alone is a Guru so if he says I am a special incarnation who hung straight down from the skies that is why I am special and you are a sinner so now take refuge in me I will give you a mantra and take you to heaven or in the guru's abode this is totally opposite of what the Vedas say This is not according to the Vedas so surrender, seeking is to be done by the disciple not from the Guru's end many of my revered knowledgeable, old saints they always said that by moving around on streets with mike is not the way to impart gyana they would say do not gather crowds to make them listen to gyana when the crowd comes, you need to lower the standard of your discourse because the crowd will not understand gyana The Brahma Sutras can not be understood by the crowd they just know to ring bells at the most they might visit the temple if more, some might will follow a religious routine or do some shraadha or something otherwise they don't know anything so when we say Guru then remember the guru does not need disciples, disciples need the Guru and in the guru's eyes there is no duality there is just one Brahman, no one else Atman does not have multiple forms Atman is Brahman that, which is based on principle of non duality established in the oneness so ... such a one, we call Sadguru Lord Krishna does not really have to say it saying it would have raised doubt why is he saying so? I am so happy you made me a guru today this is not required
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